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Finals are over. Thank you god, Im so sick of studying for those. Today's wasn't too bad, just a 100 question multiple choice and matching test. And since Im not too bad in biology I think I did well. And it was kinda sad seeing my friends for the last time until next semester since most of them will be busy or gone during the holidays. I also said good-bye to my french teacher, since she is retiring and moving to Florida to help take care of her mother. I have to admit she was a good french teacher. After all she was born and raised in France, and she did teach english and french for the past 35 years, so who wouldn't be good after so much practice?

Anyways Im probably going to be spending the next month goofing off. I love it ♥

And now for the theory...

The person is in the Bridge legend is either Demak or Rudger. One of them suicided off the bridge and that lead to them becoming a dark signer. Now this may point to Godwin being the last signer. Because if you think about it, each of the dark signers deaths were indirectly or directly caused by the signers actions. Kiryu being Yusei, Carly being Jack, and Misty being Aki. Since Godwin is the head of Neo Domino and its security, he did play a part in getting the man killed no?

Some comparing pictures

Guy in the bridge legend to Rudger and to Demak:

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They both look similar to the bridge guy, however I would say that Rudger is closer in terms of facial structure.

Now, some people think that Rudger is more connected to Ruka because he has her Ancient Fairy Dragon and he is shown in the ending facing Ruka and Rua. Now that could be true. But it could also easily be Demak too.

Pic of the ending shot:

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Now its rather ambiguous, it doesn't really show if its either Rudger or Demak

It also makes more sense that Rudger is the bridge guy since the bridge guy has a connection to Godwin(if he is indeed the fifth) who has the head and is the leader. So wouldn't it make more sense for the leaders of both signer teams to be connected no?

on 2008-12-19 04:26 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nikil-san.livejournal.com
I still think Rua is the fifth signer. The opening and ending, plus the vision the signers have point to it. I mean, why would they give Rua the fifth dragon and why would they pair him with the other signers if he isn't the fifth signer? Doesn't make sense.

on 2008-12-19 04:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
Theres a problem though, Rua clearly isn't missing an arm XD I suppose it is odd that Rua has a dragon that is similar to the fifth signer dragon. Plus I can't picture him being the head, it would have made more sense if he was the claw because his sister is the foot, but we all know that thats not possible now.

on 2008-12-19 04:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] calaidi.livejournal.com
Also, Crow is also in the opening and ending with just as much significance. He's definitely not a Signer. XD I'm so going to use that excuse from now on...

I really like this theory. It makes more sense than the theory that the Daedalus Bridge guy is Godwin.

on 2008-12-19 04:52 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
Haha yes~ Both Rua and Crow are cool enough on their own without being signers.

I dunno why people think that Godwin is the bridge guy(other than the fact that he might be from Satellite), how the heck could he survive jumping off that bridge too?

on 2008-12-19 05:03 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mimirol.livejournal.com
The script for 37 is out. Godwin was actually Satellite born. Which makes me think Mina's theory that Godwin and Rudger are brothers so much more true now.

on 2008-12-19 05:06 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mimirol.livejournal.com
The fall was the "accident" that made him lose his arm?!!! I unno xD

on 2008-12-19 05:46 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] koyuki
Wait, how could Godwin be born in Satellite unless if he was born like, 18 years ago which he clearly wasn't? Unless if Satellite was the district's name before it became its own island. If it's true then having been born in Satellite isn't necessarily bad because it was the center of research and development. Despite where some colleges are located these days, as far as I know, most people (ie Kaiba Corp) do not go out of their way to build intellectual think-tank centers in the middle of trashy and poor neighborhoods.

I'd always assumed Satellite became a "bad" place because of the disaster it was associated with and the fact that no one bothered to rebuild it after the Momentum accident.

I'm kind of totally confused by the timeline at this point, so maybe I should just give up. *sigh*

on 2008-12-19 05:47 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] olesia
The reason we think that the Dark Signer in the ending shot is Rudger as opposed to Demak is very simple:

The costumes don't match.



Notice that Demak's gloves are entirely uniform -- that is, they just look like straight, normal gloves. Rudger's, however, have the funky white band on the wrist. Further, Demak's arms are completely covered, whereas Rudger has bare upper arms -- which you can plainly see in the shot you provided, as well.

All of which, of course, matches the glove depicted holding the Ancient Fairy Dragon card.

Continuing:

on 2008-12-19 05:54 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] olesia
As for the Signer-Dark Signer correlation, I do think you're on to something, but I'm really curious how on earth Ruka could have -- at only eleven, and almost a complete hermit -- have gotten a guy like Rudger or Demak killed.

The guy in Crow's story also has a vague resemblance to Godwin in the same ways.

And if we're going with opening/ending as proof for the Final Signer, then it's going to be either Godwin or Crow or Rua. At this point, there's a ton of evidence for any of them (Godwin has the missing arm and the mysterious arm-in-a-jar, Rua has the decoy dragon that might actually be a real dragon but olesia's theory is that it will wind up being a host for AFD later on for twin-tag duels), and Crow would be completely left field.

on 2008-12-19 06:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mimirol.livejournal.com
I know, I've been trying to figure out the timeline too for fic purposes. And it sucks.

But ND existed before Zero Reverse happened. Or at least Tops did. We know this because Yuusei was Tops born according to Jack. And since Yuusei's parents worked on the First Momentum in Satellite, there was probably already a huge rift in between ND and Satellite.

And even if Godwin was "Satellite born", it doesn't really mean ND existed yet, and that Godwin's appearance is lying about his age. The original Domino City could have been turning into a slumy place. To me, Godwin created ND to be a safe utopia paradise to escape the violence that was threatening the original Domino City, and why he tries so hard to keep the people of ND safe.

Yeah, its past midnight and I'm sure I don't make much sense.

on 2008-12-19 10:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] 7th-rock-alien.livejournal.com
Since Godwin is from Satellite, I'm staking-out over in the dude-jumping-off-the-bridge-is-actually-Godwin-theory camp. And I'm also half-convinced that he's the fifth Signer. I assume the Head must be the leader, and he certainly has the skillz for it. But I do like those other theories, too. Interesting alternatives.

Lua isn't the fifth Signer, I pretty sure of that. If he was going to be a Signer, something would've happened by now. Plus, he's like Luca's mind-link support system for when she duels using her Signer powers. I think of him more as being a half-Signer, really. Although I do have a hard time picturing Godwin wielding that last dragon...

Crow: very doubtful. True, all his best buds are Signers, but I just don't see it happening. Thus far, all of our Signers have had their status as such either hinted at or revealed within two episodes of their debut. (With the exception being Yuusei, but he's the main character.) Crow has been around since episode 30. If he was going to be a Signer, I think we'd be getting at least some sort of hint. Like that heartbeat scene between Misty and Carly.

Then again, there's still the possibility that we haven't met our fifth Signer yet. But that would leave the question of how Godwin managed to activate the Dragon's Head for episode 26. Or where the hell the fifth was hiding when the rest of the Signers were all floating down the Yellow Brick Road. So, either we've got a really huge plothole, Godwin's the fifth Signer, or the Dragon's Head is dead floating around in a tank in Godwin's magical basement temple (because apparently being alive is not a requirement for Signerhood). Nothing else makes sense.

on 2008-12-19 11:00 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
Since Godwin was born Satellite, I think that he would have gotten out before Zero Reverse happened when Satellite was its own district, but not like it today. Because Godwin has to be at least around 40-50 years old, and I would think that its possible that he already was working for Public Maintenance before Zero Reverse happened.

I agree on you with Lua and Crow. Lua is more of a Pseudo-Signer than anything else.

The Dragon Head, I believe whether detached or not, still would have activated under the presence of the Crimson Dragon. But the fact that the fifth signer was MIA in 26 still bothers me ><'

Re: Continuing:

on 2008-12-19 11:29 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
Ah well, I think it could still be either of them. But Im curious as well what kind of connection has with Rudger/Demak too. And I really can't think of anything Ruka would have done that would indirectly or directly caused their deaths.

Crow and Rua I don't picture either of them being Signers. Rua would have been confirmed or have more hints given other than the fact that his dragon resembles the fifth signer dragon. Plus Rua would have probably been with the signers in 26 if he was one. Crow has no evidence supporting that he is one and by now we would have gotten a hint of some sort about him.

on 2008-12-19 11:32 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] 7th-rock-alien.livejournal.com
THIS IS TRUE. But he may have also worked his way up the ranks after escaping to ND. NEED MOAR BACKSTORIEZ. D:

The only way I can think of that would cause the fifth Signer not to show up would be either A) [s]he's dead, or B) the mark is on Godwin's detached arm and arms aren't just going to randomly float around like that by themselves.

on 2008-12-19 11:39 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
Yeah, I would think that he did do that after coming to Neo Domino.

Also how could Satellite be a ghetto pre Zero Reverse when it was the center for researching momentum and in the opening where it shows Zero Reverse happening, Satellite looked pretty decent.

The fifth signer can't be dead, after all how can all the signers combine their magical powers to defeat the big bad spider if one of them is dead.

on 2008-12-19 12:02 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] 7th-rock-alien.livejournal.com
Maybe it was a nice place when he was born there. And he just never left until it required jumping off a bridge. XD

Well, all of the Dark Signers are kinda dead...

on 2008-12-19 04:38 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] arynis.livejournal.com
Oh, damn. 5D's is getting more and more mind screwy. D< And... Godwin is from Satellite? Never read 5D's scripts, lawl.

These possibilities you guys said here are pretty interesting. Personally I can't see Rua with the Head mark, but the writers throw the dragon hints with Rua, and Godwin had the whole arm-in-a-jar deal... I'm not as keen on 5D's, so I just sit back and be amazed at the twists. XD

on 2008-12-21 09:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mistressminako.livejournal.com
It's Rudger. Demak has long sleeves and Rudger has broader shoulders.

Also I think Rudger and Rex are brothers :x

on 2008-12-21 09:38 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mistressminako.livejournal.com
Or keep in mind that one or more of our information sources have been deliberately mislead. Jack could be just as confused as Carley right now.


... :psyduck:

on 2008-12-21 11:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com
You know, that would be an interesting possiblity and it would draw yet another parellel. I could see them being brothers easily

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