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Starry~ ([personal profile] planetary) wrote2009-07-27 12:32 pm
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Fic challenges and plot bunnies

Started on a drabble type of challenge here http://digitalstarry.livejournal.com/57057.html#cutid1 Probably not going to be posting the drabbles here because I'm shooting for a drabble written each day. Its 100 words a piece so I better make it count XD~

Also, I has another plot bunny I want to work with. [livejournal.com profile] northwind_gale I know this is your type of stuff :D

Anyways, I know that Yusei getting Dark Signer'd is probably been done a couple of times now. But I was thinking of doing it right after Yusei takes a tumble into the Momentum pit. Instead of being rescued by Mufasa his father, he dies by getting pushed into the pit from the ghosts. With that, he gains a false goal that he must take out the Signers, to avenge the people killed by Zero Reverse. A duel with Jack however, cleanses him.

[identity profile] birdofsatellite.livejournal.com 2009-07-27 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't wait to see what you two will come up with for that plot bunny.

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-27 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe, I wasn't going to work with her, just ask for her opinion about it ^^

[identity profile] nikil-san.livejournal.com 2009-07-27 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah okay. ^_^;; I think it's a cool one.

Late North is late :D

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Heeeeeeeee. I'm liking it. But how would this twisted logic turn out? Defeating the Signers to avenge the Zero Reverse deaths? Is it because of the whole war thing or...?

Nah

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Basicially, implanted with false memories that the Signers caused Zero Reverse, which is why he turns to the DSs because he thinks they want to avenge the lost souls.

Re: Nah

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh...

Somehow, Yuusei doesn't strike me as a person who would fall to such reasoning lightly. I think that he'd have to be convinced that those memories were true. Perhaps if he reflected on how little he truly knew about the war in the first place...?

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe? I could also just do it from my [livejournal.com profile] tail_of_power muse~

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, since that muse caused Zero Reverse himself with his Signer powers. And by turning to death as a solution, he's given the chance to repent and make up for what he's done? :3

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Of course <3~ Do you think that is plausible mmyes?

Also I might find him a home at [livejournal.com profile] webscape~

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more plausible for him than another muse with sudden memory implants. :)

That RP sounds sufficiently brainbreaking. :D :D :D

same person, diff account

[identity profile] the-grimheaper.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
<3~ I've just wanted to try writing DS Yusei, although not one set like [livejournal.com profile] wings_bird universe is

|D Im gonna app there after I come back, laid back and it allows all sorts of AUs~

Re: same person, diff account

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I expect DS!Yuusei can turn out differently depending on his AU, like Ryuu-twin is overly bitchy because he can't feel anything else, but dogmark!Yuu is a little more evened out in personality because he's not completely Dark Signer'd, just sharing headspace. His character is open enough to allow for all sorts of manips. Your DS!Yuu, I think, would have a sense of honor, loyalty, and actually be somewhat himself, just a bit more emo, since he's doing it to repent for his "sins", I suppose. :3

[identity profile] the-grimheaper.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah more realistic and something that could have been canon molded

But the only problem is, how to reverse it :D?

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm...

I'd have to say, perhaps Crow or Jack, seeing as they're his closest friends. However, I'm more inclined to say Jack, since he was also experimented on by Divine, and he didn't help Yuu out after his Signer-boom after the Kiryuu incident. This could be his way to make up, I suppose. Jack, I think, had some insecurities with his bond with Yuusei after the whole stealing Stardust and your D-Wheel thing, because even though Yuusei forgave him and all, I'm inclined to believe that Jack wasn't entirely sure about that. :o

[identity profile] the-grimheaper.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, even though Crow is built around being Yusei's bff and all, I felt that Jack is closer to him. I feel like in 5D's itself, a broken relationship is tighter and better then those who have never been shattered. Canon examples being Aki and her parents, Yusei and Jack, Yusei and Kiryu, the Godwin bros and so on.

fff I should get Icy in on this |D

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and I think that's true for real life in general. When people go through the trouble of working out the kinks in their bonds, it brings them closer. They've shared something there. They've proved to each other that they can hold on in the bad times as well as the good. And 5D's is a good example of that.

fffff yes you should. lD

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Of course. 5D's is a symbol of broken relationships

lol symbolic bridge |D

I will poke her with a friend invite, or something~

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
symbolic broken bridge ffffffffffh lD

Yes you do that. :D :D

Also I should probably be going to bed right now but I'm not tired wheeeee

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
NEVAR.

OR AT LEAST NOT UNTIL DADDY COMES HOME SO I DON'T HAVE TO BABYSIT OTOTO. :D

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Gawd you can't even spell right

btw up for plotting with that guy and capslock Jack later?

[identity profile] northwind-gale.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
IN CAPSLOCK, MISSPELLINGS ARE INTENTIONAL. ;D

Sure. :)
iceyly: (carly shy)

[personal profile] iceyly 2009-07-28 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
*was poked*?

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*points way up to the above convo*
iceyly: (thinking)

[personal profile] iceyly 2009-07-28 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the idea of crossing that DS!Yusei-verse with [livejournal.com profile] tail_of_power. World needs more good DS!Yusei anyway. ;)

And I agree with Norths estimation of his general character. Though if his second duel with Rudger happens as in canon, then I'm not sure if he would take the blame even (or perhaps especially) if he is the cause of ZR. Crow forgives him, or rather says there is nothing to forgive and that he would never go back on their friendship, which has a lot of impact on the way Yusei ends that duel in canon. If that Yuseis Crow does the same, wouldn't that keep Yusei from going DS?

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes~ Well made DS!Yusei and not just randomly turning into one just so he can have buttsex with Kiryu Yes I have seen that

Didn't Yusei however, blame himself for ZR? Crow could just not show up at all, or arrival after Yusei falls into the pit?
iceyly: (5d's)

[personal profile] iceyly 2009-07-28 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I saw that fic too. That and random DS!Yusei for sex with Aki. I really start to dread visiting ff.nets 5d's section.

True, but I think that, even though he blames himself, some part of canon!Yusei knows that he could have done nothing short of time-travel to stop ZR (or at least I like to credit him so much rationality). I think that [livejournal.com profile] tail_of_power would blame himself even more, since he doesn't just associate ZR to himself through his father and those the Momentumproject, but is the actual cause. A big difference, I'd say.

Taking Crow out, would leave Rudger to answer how Yusei is supposed to deal with his own darkness.Though would he really answer that, and does he even have the ability to. I also question whether Yusei could bring himself to end the duel under those circumstances. If he doesn't, perhaps the lingering guilt and perhaps some sort of vision of the ZR-Zombies would turn him into DS after losing?

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, not nearly infamously bad as the GX section, but Im glad I have a fanfic comm for quality control

*nod* Even though it wasn't his fault, he was the direct cause of it.

He could lose, though I wonder what to do with Rudger, maybe he dies from the bridge collapsing on its own?
iceyly: (Default)

[personal profile] iceyly 2009-07-28 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
What if you bring in Yuseis powers at that point again? They react when his emotions run high, right?

So if he was to lose control of them, it would blast them both down into rainbow pitt. Duel is interupted, but who cares about that once they swim in the momentum? XD

rp account lolz

[identity profile] plznolitlepenis.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod* He also, during the second Misty and Aki duel, kills Divine with his powers instead(but still giving Divine an appropriate karma death XD)

XDD Yes that will work well. Now would a duel reverse it instead of killing him>

Also rp account lolz. :D

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno. It kinda sounds like a general overuse of his guilt tripping powers to suddenly kill Divine in the middle of the Aki/Misty duel part deux. It makes it look a bit like a plot device, methinks. Unless he is still DS'd at that time, somehow, then I could see that happening. I'd like to think that his powers coincide with his emotions towards them-if, perhaps, that duel with Jack/Crow/whoever helps him to see reason, and to come to terms with his powers, the responsibilites they come with, the things they've caused, and to learn to not run from them by seeking death, but accept them, and to tame them, those powers would melllow out somewhat-at the very least, stay under control better.

Now, if the duel concludes in a draw due to Yuu's powers, like Icey said, then it would be the effects of the lethal rainbows Momentum and the souls trapped within, that caused him to die, that the cause of Yuusei's death might possibly be Yuusei himself, as he wishes to seek repetenance. If Jack/Crow/whoever makes him see reason during that duel, then I'd hazard a guess that perhaps, yes, a duel might just reverse it through da powah of friendship and bonds and yaaaaaaay.

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Mmkay. I'm still fidling with his season two history. It was more like a thought then anything else.

Yeah, I just don't know if he can be fully DSed, or if a Signer can be DSed but Double Signer Godwin did happen. So it is possible for a Signer to become DSed but I'm still unsure if his Signer mark would go away @_@

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well, we'll see how it looks when it's fleshed out. :)

I'd like to think that perhaps instead of being erased, it would be...repressed? Like the mark would still be there, but it wouldn't activate or something. In this Yuu's case, the powers inside him seem to be more deeply connected than canon!verse, and I doubt they'd be erased that easily. Also, it's stated that the Crimson Dragon did choose the power of bonds, and if this Yuu still holds his bonds close, which may be probable-he's only seeking revenge for repetenance, not hatred like the rest of the DS's revenge is still revenge however, gleeeee-there's a chance that the power is still inside him, and if whomever the Savior duelist is who duels him manages to link with him, to trigger those powers, it could reverse his DS-ification. So, he might not be a complete DS. :o?

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think a Savior Dragon could heal him(which is why Jack would be more appropriate for him to fight).

Especially a Yusei would hold his bonds though. I just wish we had a better example then Godwin to go by.

[identity profile] imprisondmartyr.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
We kinda sorta have the twins *shot*

Actually, I've been pondering the concept of dual Signers as well, for experimentation with Cetus' future. In his case, I was thinking more of a deadly balance. Keeping himself neutral is the key to keeping the powers tamed-if he leans towards one side, the other will react and tear his body and spirit to shreds. Really, I think it's implied in canon that dual Signer-dom is a difficult state to be in, and can't be in for long without a conclusion. The volatile reaction of having the two opposite powers next to each other would destroy the person if they didn't choose. Rudger didn't hold that status for long after recieving it, after all. Dual Signer-dom was really just the first battlefield in a long war.

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well I meant canon example XD

And what are you plotting with Cetus?

Though Rex could have held his longer since his only switched when his mark was taken away. And didn't Rudger become a DS after ZR occurred and after he sliced off his arm?

EXCESSIVE TL'DR IN WHITETEXT WHEEEEEEEEE

[identity profile] 1andnotthesame.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know. lD

It's something that happens a little while after the execution duel planned for him. He's still somewhat alive, and in his near-death state, he fervently wishes to see his friends one last time to make sure that they're alright. Since he's befriended Ushio in this verse, Ushio seeks the remains of Team Sat out and sneaks them into the compound to visit him (although since it's been three years, I'm pretty sure Jack is King by this point and so I don't know about Jack, hm...). However, seeing that Kiryuu doesn't seem to have fully forgiven Security, and is still inclined towards insanity and revenge, it makes him afraid to die for the first time in three years, because he doesn't think that he's been able to help his friend. This indecision on his part causes him to be confronted by Ccpac Apu (attracted by his fear of death) and the Crimson Dragon (attracted by his will to protect) after death. With his mind clouded by doubt and fear, as well as a lack of prior knowledge of the Signers and Dark Signers, he doesn't know which path is correct, and only wishes to come back. This is a decision he later regrets, as he is latched on by both of them. Because he hasn't accepted either one of the entities, he can't access the entirety of either one's abilities-he's come back to life, but only his internal organs are preserved, forcing Cetus to bleed himself dry and basically mummify himself to keep his external body dry and to keep it from rotting. He is confronted by Godwin, who gives him the basic TL'DR Rexposition, and agrees to work under him under the condition that the bridge is built at the end of the war. He goes under the alias of "Tail", and remains in Godwin's shadow, using the resources of the Public Security Maitenance Bureau to keep an eye out for his friends. However, he is constantly haunted by the thought that he can't keep up this charade for long, that if he steps even one toe out of line, the war will break out in his body and endanger everyone. Hence, he remains silent, aloof, and inadverdently pisses off each and every member of TS when he does run into them down the storyline.

Well, from the way I read the subs, I think it was implied that even though he wasn't fully a DS, both the Crimson Dragon and the Earthbound Gods had some kind of hold on him. So there was still a war going on inside his body, and in a way, he was a dual DS.

Re: EXCESSIVE TL'DR IN WHITETEXT WHEEEEEEEEE

[identity profile] digitalstarry.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
holy crap I thought Rhod was the Queen of Teal Deer

Ah okay, Im behind on subs (only up to 57 ;~;). Still this could pave for more dual DSs. For instance a Jack who did give into the illusion from Carly.

[identity profile] 1andnotthesame.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly I think too much about this stuff.

Ah. See, in 59, Rudger tells his little brother "There are two gods residing in my body! But I chose the path of evil!" Or something along those lines. :3 And Rex repeats that in 63. Or I think it's 63...

...somebody should do that. Besides that epic mun who did the Jack straight from the illusion.